The next meeting of Talking Allowed in Leeds is on Monday 10th of July at 1.45pm. The venue is Veritas Ale and Wine Bar, Great George Street, Leeds.

We are discussing the connection between popular music and its social and political roots. Rik will introduce the topic by looking at jazz and blues

What is your music and what was happening in the wider society which gave rise to it? If you want Rik to play a short extract of a track to illustrate your choice, let me know. Rik will be bringing along a portable player.

This is the topic held over from July which was cancelled due to Veritas being closed for refurbishment.

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David Whalley writes:-

The DiPs (Discussion in Pubs) in Staffordshire & Cheshire have given repeated attention to “Artificial Intelligence” and “Robotics” in recent times.  On the RWF Facebook page & Padlet there have been references to the effects that ever more sophisticated information technology may be having on our democracy.

The House of Lords has recently established a Select Committee on Artificial Intelligence http://www.parliament.uk/ai-committee .  Their first public consultation is currently under way.  It touches on topics probably close to the heart of many involved in the RWF, PiPs & DiPs.  The consultation form is a masterpiece of DiP questions – pages 2 & 3 – http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-committees/Artificial-Intelligence/Artificial-Intelligence-call-for-evidence.pdf .  These require almost no editing to produce a pub-ready page of questions.

Although public consultation ends 6 September, is there a case for drawing this questionnaire’s existence to all organisers of PiPs & DiPs for early inclusion in their Draft Autumn Programmes; with each circle’s participants choosing the questions that they wished to focus on?  I would say “yes”.

Is there any mechanism for the RWF to make a collective response, especially on the references to public education and / or effects of AI on democracy?

Assuming that it is impossible to meet the consultation deadline, could it still be a worthwhile exercise to encourage discussion circles to engage with these topics and to warn the Select Committee to expect a late response due to us being a network of voluntary, community organisations who generally take a summer break?  Again, I would say “yes”.

Paul Doran replies:-

As with DiPs, PIPs too have discussed this topic over recent years. The consultation text looks ideal as a discussion document. I agree there’s a case for informing all group organisers, etc, for the reasons you mention (education / democracy) plus others. That there’s a Select Committee looking into the question is no doubt a motivating factor, but personally moves me less than the idea that we (Dips/PIPs/RWF) organise open discussions with the express idea of pulling together, and correlating the collective thoughts and findings of each group into some kind of general assessment.

We have just learned that Veritas is closed on the 10th of July and therefore we have decided to cancel the July meeting.  We will return to the topic of popular music and society in the future.

Some of us will be meeting outside Veritas on Monday at 1.45pm anyway, then adjourning to the George for a drink and chat at 2pm.  Feel free to join us.

 

The next meeting of Talking Allowed in Leeds is on Monday 10th of July at 1.45pm. The venue is Veritas Ale and Wine Bar, Great George Street, Leeds.

We are discussing the connection between popular music and its social and political roots. Rik will introduce the topic by looking at jazz and blues

What is your music and what was happening in the wider society which gave rise to it? If you want Rik to play a short extract of a track to illustrate your choice, let me know. Rik will be bringing along a portable player.

The next meeting of Talking Allowed in Leeds is on Monday 12th of June at 1.45pm. The venue is Veritas Ale and Wine Bar, Great George Street, Leeds.

Ian will introduce the topic of Violence.

“That war is just which is necessary” (Machiavelli)  Empty rhetoric in the service of the powerful? Or a truth which we are forced to acknowledge?

 

The next meeting of Talking Allowed in Leeds is on Monday 8th of May at 1.45pm. The venue is Veritas Ale and Wine Bar, Great George Street, Leeds.
Rik will open the discussion on “Free Will”.
A useful source for the topic is Bob Doyle’s book, “Free Will: The Scandal in Philosophy”. Amazon has a number of reviews.